Episode 56

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Published on:

1st Apr 2025

The Courage to Feel: Lessons on Respect, Anxiety, and Grace

In this episode, the host shares personal updates, including an exciting opportunity to work on a book with Bob Goff. Key topics discussed include drawing insights from a Mel Robbins podcast on earning respect from others, understanding the impact of being interrupted, addressing the timing of interactions, handling disrespectful situations, and the importance of acknowledging one's own feelings. The host also delves into overcoming anxiety through gratitude and therapeutic techniques while balancing demanding life roles. Practical advice and personal experiences provide listeners with useful tools for self-improvement and emotional well-being.

00:00 Introduction and Exciting News

01:27 Mel Robbins on Earning Respect

04:30 Personal Stories of Respect

07:19 Self-Respect and Core Wounds

11:34 Dealing with Anxiety and Overwhelm

14:21 Gratitude and Finding Peace

16:20 Conclusion and Call to Action

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Transcript
Speaker:

Welcome listeners.

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I'm so thankful that you're here

today as always, and I'm excited.

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I do have exciting news and I know that

I told you last week that I'd fill you

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in and I mentioned that I was writing

a book, but at the end of April, I

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am going to The Oaks in California

and I am working with Bob Goff.

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I could jump up and down and scream.

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I'm working with him to get my

book done, so, um, super excited.

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I can't wait to fill you in more.

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I have not heard the voice

of God a lot, but I swore I

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heard him say, write the book.

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So We'll see if it's meant for my healing,

for your healing, but really excited about

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it and I'll talk more about it as I go,

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And you know, too, I'm traveling, so I'm

in, Iowa helping my daughter who's working

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nights and selling a house and has a,

a little, so I'm helping out with that.

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So we're doing, a couple of these.

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Independent, podcast without a guess,

but I promise I have a lots of 'em lined

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up and they're gonna be jumping on soon

if you're tired of hearing my stories.

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But this episode I'm excited about

and I've been wanting to share it.

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For about a week I've held on, I'm

like, okay, I cannot forget that

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I wanna share this information.

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I actually just wrote down some notes

before I jumped on to record this.

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And last week, Mel Robbins did a

fabulous, I mean, she's amazing, right?

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She did a fabulous podcast about,

getting res, being respected by others.

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I thought, oh, that's a good one.

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So I'm gonna talk about that and I'm

gonna tell you something interesting

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that I learned about myself and

at the end, I can't help it.

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I'm gonna throw anxiety in there

because I used a tool that really

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helped me, and you know that I'm

always looking for those tools to help

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us through hard things like anxiety.

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So I'm gonna talk about that at the end.

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I'm gonna start out with kind of doing a

quick little review of that podcast on.

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Getting respect from other people.

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And she explained so concisely

how you can be disrespected.

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And I think sometimes we're not aware of

it, so just kind of become aware of it.

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And one great example is being

interrupted, which sadly I

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interrupt and that's disrespectful.

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So, on the flip side, I'm gonna

really practice not interrupting.

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However, I get interrupted too,

especially in a big house full of a

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big, loud family, and I'm not so loud.

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And what she said was, when you get

interrupted, keep talking, slow down.

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And you know sometimes how you, if

you use a quiet, slower voice, people

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will really tune in and listen to you.

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So she suggested that, and she said,

if you're still being interrupted.

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Just bring it up, which

is, why don't we do that?

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Like we carry things with us and we don't

just say, Hey Harvey, I wanna hear what

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you have to say, but I was talking about

this, so can we come back to you later?

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And then how respectful it would be if you

did come back after you said your piece.

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Then you could say, Hey

Harvey, come back in.

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So like, okay, That's great advice

and I'm gonna watch for that because

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we all know that if we wanna be

respected, it starts with us.

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Right.

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Another thing she mentioned

is your feelings matter.

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So don't let anyone say, ah,

why would you feel like that?

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Or, that's stupid, or, or whatever it is.

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Your feelings matter and make

sure that you're aware of that

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and you can again, just voice it.

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Here's a good one, and I have

a little story about this one

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when people are not on time.

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For you, like if you have a coffee date

or, whatever it is, that's disrespectful.

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And I do, I do have one friend that

likes to run late, not horribly

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late, and it's disrespectful.

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And so to be respectful, make sure

you get on time to places and you,

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we all know that things happen.

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Traffic pops up, whatever it is, just get

there and say thank you for being patient,

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because that's the best you can do.

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And you don't need to like go into

these big ordeals because we're

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all busy and, and things happen.

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But just say, thank you for your patience.

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But I have a story.

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And there were these friends that I

had in high school and I mean, I was

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kind of in their friend group, but.

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I don't know.

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I kinda flitted around to

a lot of friend groups.

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'cause you know, I was that people-pleaser

that wanted everyone to like me, but I

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would, I didn't really connect with them,

but they were kind of my friend groups.

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So as I grew and I, I think I

was even graduated from college

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and I was going to meet them, we

were gonna meet at a restaurant.

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Cute little restaurant in Stillwater.

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We had cell phones.

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It was a, it was quite a while ago.

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It was probably like 15 years ago,

maybe even a little bit more than that.

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And so I got to the restaurant on

time and I sat there probably for

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half an hour, and I don't even know,

I think they bothered to call me about

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45 minutes in and they were like.

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Kind of laughing about it and I

was sitting there all by myself.

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It wasn't like one person was

there, it was like four people

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were coming and they were all late.

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And I made a decision and

it did kind of end that.

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I made the decision to end

that relationship with those

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people and I got up and I left.

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It was too far and I

respected myself too much.

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And so those ladies kinda laughed at me.

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Nobody apologized.

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you know, and so I was kind of done.

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I mean, I've seen 'em,

it's not like we hate 'em.

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Of course we forgive people

because we're Christians, right?

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But it wasn't, it wasn't a good,

a good friend group for me anyway.

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And I had to respect myself.

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So I left the restaurant and I didn't.

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Say, sorry, I didn't, which

would be a normal Lisa move.

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I just let it go.

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I let them, and the relationship

did fizzle, but it was probably,

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it was necessary that it fizzled.

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So be on time and when you can't be,

just say thank you for your patience.

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Another thing that Mel talked about was

how the silent treatment is really, kind

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of not abusive, but kind of because.

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Somebody's not telling you that you're,

they're mad at you and they're mad because

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they think you should read their mind.

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And I've been on both

sides of this, right?

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So let's re remember that and remember

that people don't remind, and I know we

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think that they should, and how could they

not know that people don't, You have no

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right to be mad if you can't tell them.

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So just tell them.

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And I'm telling you, I have

used this in my life lately and

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it really, really does work.

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So quit the siloed treatment.

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Let's just bring it out onto the table.

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I do need to add, and this is kind of

gonna get into how I'm gonna talk about

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how this information about respect from

other people really made me look at.

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Sometimes I disrespect myself

and there are times when I think

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I shouldn't be mad about that.

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And so then I don't say

that I'm mad about it.

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And then, I, you know, then

I do the silent treatment.

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'cause I'm not saying what I feel.

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People, your feelings matter.

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Talk it out if you're mad.

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You have every right.

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Look at it, talk about it.

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You can be polite and say, okay,

this is making me feel this way.

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is that, was that your intent?

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So clarify it.

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And that's the same thing.

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She, she also talked about,

and this is so interesting.

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I had an attorney that I worked

with and she was a little bit older

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than me, and she would do like

backhanded, sarcastic, like, oh, you

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don't seem like you'd be an attorney.

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And what Mel said to do, I would just

take that, I remember, I could just feel

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like going, ugh, feeling icky about it.

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And Mel said, ask them to repeat it.

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Say, oh wait, can you say that again?

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And she said they don't want to repeat

it because they kind of wanna slide

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it in and not be nice and, and then

let them know how it made you feel.

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as you're earning respect from

other people, you're gonna

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gain respect for yourself.

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Because like I said, as I

look through all of these,

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it starts with me and, oh, friends,

I don't respect myself enough.

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now I did, like I said, there

were some examples like with those

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friends, I had had enough and I

respected myself, but so many times.

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I don't respect my own feelings and I

judge them, and I think we all do this.

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And I go, well, I shouldn't

be feeling that way.

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So that's stupid.

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And so I'm not, I'm not gonna say

how I feel, just like I was saying,

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I'm not gonna tell someone I'm

mad because I shouldn't be mad.

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You need to respect your

feelings and we know.

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We've talked about this a lot, that

our feelings aren't gonna hurt us.

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We need to go into 'em.

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I mean, and that's, there is

just so much work in this.

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I feel like there are so many things

getting thrown together for me right now

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on this healing journey and to really

know where your feelings are coming from.

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I'd like to talk about that core wounds

course because you kinda go way back, to.

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I mean, when you were like

two or, or whatever it was.

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And that takes work.

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Like there's a JJ Zain course that is in

these show notes that I highly recommend.

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the work that I did with Sonia,

the tapping gal that was on the

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podcast, she also talked about,

you've gotta go back to where those.

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Feelings come from because you can

make positive affirmations all you

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want, but if you don't really know

what you're looking at and where

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that stems from, it's gonna be hard.

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And I think it's probably a process that

you're gonna go through your whole life.

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you're gonna keep growing and learning,

of course, but I can tell you, I mean,

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you've seen me go through this journey.

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Life is getting better.

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So that Mel Robbins podcast, I.

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Go back and listen to it.

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Talked about getting respect from

other people, and I'm telling

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you, use it and respect yourself.

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Be on time for yourself when

you have a lunch date to watch

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Heartland and eat a salad like I do.

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Be on time.

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That's your time.

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Be on time for yourself.

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Be kind about your feelings.

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Be understanding and have empathy when

you feel angry, be kind to yourself.

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And then on the other side, as we can

grow and get that respect for ourselves,

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I do think that's where it starts.

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But it is in conjunction

with other people.

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It will give you practice

on how to gain that respect.

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So I feel so strongly about that, and I

have been wanting to talk about that since

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last week when I was on a walk and I heard

that podcast, I promised you that I would

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talk also, not only about the respect

piece, but about anxiety because it's

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just something that I am always dealing

with and I'm really wanting to wean off

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the medication that I was on that I'm

thankful for because it was a situational

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journey for me and I needed it.

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But I also think maybe, I

wonder if it's maybe muddling

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with my clarity a little bit.

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you know, when I get overwhelmed it can

kind of stop me and so I, I wanna look

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at what it, what it's gonna be like.

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So I'm slowly weaning off of it.

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So I really need to make sure that

I'm dealing with anxiety well,

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I am a person who is very

easily overwhelmed and.

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I don't like that about me.

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See, I'm not being nice to myself.

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Who cares?

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God created me.

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It's who I am.

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But I get really overwhelmed and I

am in a season right now where I am

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writing a book, trying to do this

podcast, still doing some divorces,

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and I wanna be a number one grandma.

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I love being grandma.

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And so that's why when my

daughter needed me, I said, yes,

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for sure I wanna come and help.

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However, I get overwhelmed with it.

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So last weekend I can tell that the

stress has been going up because

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I'm traveling back and forth between

my home and five hour trip away.

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so one night I was in bed and

I thought, okay, sometimes I

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forget to do my coaching stuff.

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So I went deep into the

feeling of overwhelm.

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And I thought, where is this coming from?

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And I grabbed onto my father and I brought

him with me and my father in heaven.

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and I looked at this overwhelm and

I felt it because we've learned that

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like right, it's not gonna hurt you.

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So I really looked at it and then I

used the pieces from my core wounds

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and I went, when was the first

time that I felt overwhelmed and.

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You guys, I have this story about, I

probably was two years old and I was lost

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in the woods and I still remember it and

I don't remember being terrified then,

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but I think the overwhelm was, where am I?

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Who's coming to help me.

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and I think that may have been, or one

time my mom dropped me in water babies.

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Now she didn't mean to

do it, but I remember it.

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And that's overwhelm and that's scary.

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And so I went back to that and I looked at

it and I go, okay, well that makes sense.

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That's the first time

you felt overwhelmed.

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And then I remembered something.

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Someone saying that when you feel

gratitude, you can't feel anxiety.

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So I thought, well, let

me think about that.

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So I was feeling overwhelmed about

having to travel a lot and lots of

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things coming up with the book writing

and all the things that are coming in

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my life, you know, lots of good things.

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And I went and I did the surrender

thing and I stayed close to my father.

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And I used gratitude and I thought about

all the prayers he had answered, and I

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thought about how there had been so many

times where I had been so worried and he

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was there and then I thought about the

times where everything worked out, even

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though maybe I was worried about finances

or how I was gonna get something done.

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He was there and it always worked.

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And I started remembering and

focusing, and the Bible tells you to

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focus on those what is pure and true.

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And when I started drawing my

focus towards that, I had peace.

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I had peace, and I'm holding onto it.

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This was two days ago.

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I'm sleeping better.

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I'm feeling peace

because I have gratitude.

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I keep remembering that the things that

I am thankful for, the things that have

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worked out, the things that God has

done for me, I'm focusing on those and

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it gives me an immense amount of peace.

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That does not mean that I am

trying to shove aside the feelings,

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the hard feelings that I had.

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I felt those, and I'm sure I'm gonna

have to go back and feel that because

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they're there and they will pop out

if you don't, because I think a lot of

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times in the past I would try to push

'em away and just focus on the gratitude.

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Stay focused on the gratitude,

along with feeling those feelings.

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I don't know.

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I'm an attorney and a grandma and a mom.

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I'm not a therapist, but I want to share

this with you because it has worked.

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For me and I have learned

it from therapists.

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So let me know if it works for you

and let me know if you have tips that

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have worked and jump on this podcast.

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Thanks so much for being here.

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You take good care.

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