Galloping into Grace: Uncovering the Daughter Within
In this episode, the host welcomes author and speaker Amy Seiffert. They discuss Amy’s new book, 'Your Name Is Daughter,' which explores the lives of women in the Bible and their significance. Amy shares her personal journey of faith, the impact of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) on her spiritual life, and the transformational idea of being a 'daughter of the king.' The conversation touches on the challenges women face in marriage and ministry, the importance of community, and the healing power of faith. Amy aims to inspire and encourage women, both in and outside the church, to embrace their God-given roles and potential. This episode is a heartfelt discussion on finding identity, purpose, and strength through faith.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:43 Amy Seifert's New Book
01:04 Personal Stories and Faith Journeys
02:49 Amy's Background and Faith Discovery
07:38 Discussing Women in the Bible
13:18 The Message of 'Your Name is Daughter'
17:59 Encouragement for Women
20:59 Reaching Beyond the Church
24:24 Final Thoughts and Farewell
Amy Seiffert is a popular author, speaker, and YouVersion Bible teacher. Cohost of The Seminary Sisters podcast with Jami Nato, she regularly appears on other media such as LIFE Today with James & Betty Robison, The Alli Worthington Show, Three Words podcast, Radical Radiance, Girls Talking Life podcast, and many others. She has spoken at numerous churches, conferences, retreats, and events, including Propel Women, Soma City Church, Redemption Chapel, Ventura Missionary Church, and at various CRU ministry events. Amy and her husband live with their three kids in Bowling Green, Ohio. Learn more at AmySeiffert.com.
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Transcript
Welcome listeners.
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:I have a treat for you today.
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:I have Amy Seifert with me and I, when
I was kind of begging Amy to be on
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:the podcast, I was like, I promise I
will do a little dance if you say yes,
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:because Amy is someone who I am just
going to get to know a little bit better
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:today, but I started following her on
Instagram, loved the message Amy that
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:you have and started reading your book.
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:Um, Okay.
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:Now I was going to make sure
I knew the title and I didn't.
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:So it's about, um, starving,
what, say, what is it?
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:Yeah.
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:That one is called starved.
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:Yeah.
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:Oh, there you go.
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:You got it.
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:So that was a great book.
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:But what I want my listeners to know
is Amy's got a book coming out today.
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:And I'm really excited
to learn more about that.
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:And we'll have a link in the show notes
so listeners can jump in and read it.
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:And I haven't read it yet, but
I'm really looking forward to it.
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:And Amy, I have to tell you
that when the title of the
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:book is, your name is daughter.
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:And as my listeners know, I, my
life has been changing and I've been
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:going through some things and really
so, and Amy, you don't know me.
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:So I had like a little, they caught,
um, Stage one breast cancer, but I
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:had like to go through chemo and I'm
just still coming out of all of this
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:Speaker 2: girl.
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:Speaker: Um, And it really
made me stop and go, whoa.
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:And I felt like God was
saying, rewire your brain.
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:And so I've been working with some, um,
a really strong Christian gal that I
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:love, and we've been doing, um, NLP work
like neuro, neuro linguistic programming.
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:And one of my key things that has
changed my life is the statement.
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:I am a daughter of the king.
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:So when I saw your book too, I was like,
Oh, this is going to be so, so good.
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:So listeners just join us.
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:Uh, Stick around for the ride.
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:Amy's going to give us her little story
so we get to know her authentic story
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:as to what led her to do this work.
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:She is, and she is a big deal.
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:You've got books.
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:You've got a huge following.
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:You are, you've got a podcast.
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:So, you know, you're not just
like a little gal sitting there
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:taking care of your babies.
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:You're doing a lot of things.
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:And, um, if people go find you on
Instagram, they will see all of that.
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:So we're going to get her story.
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:And we're going to talk a little bit
about exchanging fear and doubt for
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:confidence and faith, because that
is something I always need to do.
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:And I feel like so many women do.
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:Yeah.
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:I'm just so curious.
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:We're probably at the end going to
talk a little bit about reaching
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:women outside of the church.
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:So those are things we're going
to kind of cover a little bit,
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:but Amy, thank you for being here.
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:Welcome.
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:And can you please just introduce
yourself and share your story
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:as to what led you here?
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:Speaker 2: Yes.
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:Oh my gosh.
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:Well, thanks for sharing some
of your journey and man, I love
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:therapy and theology together.
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:We need it all.
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:And so I'm so grateful.
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:Yes.
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:Um, the rewiring of our neuropathways.
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:Come on.
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:That's so good.
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:Um, Yeah.
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:Okay.
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:Thank you.
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:You're so kind.
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:You're so fun.
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:Um, I, I, I feel like a circus.
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:I'm juggling things and I drop
balls all the time, but don't think
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:I'm shiny or anything like that.
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:Like, we're just out here doing things.
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:Speaker: Well, and I told Amy what, before
we jumped on, I said, well, you know, hon.
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:You get to be a grandma.
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:I had a circus with my three
kiddos and now I've got another
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:circus with my grandchildren.
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:So yeah, yeah, it just
doesn't end, but it's fun.
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:Speaker 2: You know what?
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:Laughter goes a long way.
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:So it's all good.
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:Lightheartedness.
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:Um, yeah.
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:So I, man, I'm, I'm so grateful to be
here and I'm excited about this message.
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:Um, your name is daughter and even,
um, walking with Jesus, having Found
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:him for the first time when I was 15
and opening my Bible for the first
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:time and really being enamored with.
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:God's word.
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:I was like, this is phenomenal.
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:I was drawn right to it.
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:Um, and couldn't get away from it and
has clung to his word and found some
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:teaching and preaching and leadership
gifts along the way and through the
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:valleys of all kinds of things that we
have walked through as a family, um,
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:to even right now in my author life.
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:Um, I, I identify with God as a
shepherd in my life in so many ways
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:that I, yeah, I just am thankful
to have found myself shepherded
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:right here to this, this moment.
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:Speaker: I love that.
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:Okay.
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:Can you give me a little bit more?
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:So you're 15 and you find God and
it, and it doesn't, and you're
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:different than me because I oddly
kind of felt like I always had him.
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:Like, I felt like I, I didn't have
like this, aha, where there he is.
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:I just felt like he was always there.
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:So tell me about what happened when
you were 15 that led you to read
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:the Bible and, and to discover him.
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:Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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:Um, I grew up in a Catholic
background, so I was in church.
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:Okay.
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:Yeah.
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:Um, and there was such
a rich heritage there.
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:My grandma was a woman of faith and,
um, shared different things with me.
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:So I was curious.
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:Um, but it wasn't until I went to young
life camp, a friend took me there in
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:Saranac, New York, that I was like, Oh,
it was the first time that I understood.
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:Um, I didn't, I didn't really get when
I was sitting in Catholic mass, why
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:Jesus was on the cross and they young
life explained, um, well, he died for
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:us, for our sins to know him, but he's.
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:Off the cross resurrected living now,
and we get to live that life with him.
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:And I, I really did have a moment
by the lake when I was 15, after
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:the gospel was explained to me where
I asked like, Jesus, I need you.
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:I, I need a rescuer.
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:And I did feel like about 50
pounds was removed from my
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:shoulders that night by the lake.
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:Like I, almost felt a physical
sensation of being free and light.
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:And, um, it was an experience with God.
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:I'll never forget.
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:And, and from there, I just
couldn't get away from him.
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:And even I couldn't get away
from his word specifically.
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:I'm, I'm a reader.
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:I was a literature major and God's word
with all the nine genres going on in
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:there has been so fascinating to me.
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:Um, but yeah, it started young life
camp was such an experience for me.
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:Speaker: Well, and I think as you're
talking, you know, there's, I feel
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:like there's proof of, of God in so
many things and so many miracles, but
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:it really is such a personal journey.
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:And so I say, like, I could see him
always there with me, but I feel,
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:and I was begging to connect with him
closer to really surrender to him right
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:before all this kind of took place.
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:And.
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:I too, it was like, I would have never
made it through what, because there were
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:other things going on in my life as well.
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:And so I would not have made it through.
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:And that is sometimes it's hard to
explain the real proof of our father.
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:Uh, but when you live it, you know it.
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:And so if you're questioning,
I'm just like, just keep digging.
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:Yes.
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:Being and connecting because
I'm still learning and I'm still
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:getting drawn closer to him.
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:And so so tell me about What led you
to write this book because another
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:thing I've been thinking about Amy is
I have a lot of women who have gone
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:through divorce because like, you know
I have a podcast called doing divorce
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:different and settle up live and I do
walk people through an amicable Divorce.
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:I like to keep, keep them
together as much as I can.
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:And I work with people that way too.
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:But I think I was, it's so funny because
I was thinking about the women who
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:perhaps are not loved by their husbands
and maybe they made a bad choice.
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:Maybe they weren't a Christian
when they married their husband.
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:Maybe they've grown and changed
and they feel like, you know, I've
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:made this covenant with this man.
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:And I kept thinking
about Leah, Leah or Leah.
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:Yeah,
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:Speaker 2: either one.
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:Yeah.
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:Speaker: Alright.
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:Either one.
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:Well then it was funny 'cause I was
kind of checking you out and you were
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:talking about it on your podcast.
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:about her.
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:And I thought, how did she do it?
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:Like could, I thought, could she, I was
looking for someone to give me an example
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:so that I could help women who are in a
marriage where they're not feeling loved.
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:And then.
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:Wham, bam.
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:You're like, you get this book,
you're talking about women.
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:So can you talk about
that just a little bit?
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:Speaker 2: Yeah.
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:Do you mean Leah
specifically or just like,
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:Speaker: well, I kind of, yeah, well,
I want to talk about the women a little
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:bit more, but Leah specifically for those
women who are kind of in a marriage.
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:That they're not going to leave because
they feel like they're in covenant.
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:They're not, you know, there's
not a reason for them to really
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:leave, except maybe they're
not loved or, you know, maybe.
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:So what do you, what, what then?
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:Speaker 2: I know.
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:I mean, that is, that is extremely hard.
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:My heart goes out and it's, I mean, every
day would be a battle to feel like, uh, In
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:a, in an unloved marriage, that's so hard.
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:Um, and I'm going to go back to
therapy plus theology, right?
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:Like to go to, to be in a space
where you have to be so sure and
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:on your inner sense of who you are,
accepting who you are and knowing
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:that you really are loved specifically
by God, specifically as a, his.
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:I mean, not only God as father, but
lover, husband, all, all of those
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:spaces, because I, I was just talking
to a young woman the other day.
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:I'm like, man, um, I, I do
have a good marriage, but he's
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:not called to be my healer.
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:He might be a part of my healing,
but he's not in charge of my healing.
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:Um, God alone is.
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:a healer in my life and speaks things and
heals things in my soul that no one can.
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:Um, and that is by spending time with
him, going on a lot of long walks
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:with God and poor, I go to Hannah
when I feel unloved, like she, her.
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:Hannah was married to Elkana
and you see this in First Samuel
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:and there was another wife too.
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:Um, Penina, Penina, maybe?
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:Is that how you say it?
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:That always makes it tricky, doesn't
it, to have another wife there?
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:I mean, that was not,
that was not God's design.
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:No.
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:Let's be specific.
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:Yeah, and she, and she didn't,
Hannah didn't have any kids, but
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:the other wife did and would like
rub it in her face as her rival.
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:And so she went straight to the temple
and you see Hannah on the ground, praying,
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:pouring out her heart to the Lord so much
so that the priest Eli thought she was
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:drunk and was like, what are you doing?
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:And she's like, Oh, I'm
not, I'm not drinking.
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:I'm pouring my heart out to God asking
for a baby like this, this deep need
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:inside of me, I'm taking it right to God.
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:And he blesses her.
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:Um, and it's like, may,
may you have what you want?
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:And so I, her bold audacity to
go to God, cry all her tears.
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:And then he bought,
and then she's blessed.
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:I'm like, okay, this is our call.
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:Often when we have something inside of
us that we, that is so broken and we
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:have to go to God and say, I, I need you.
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:There's no other way besides you.
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:Speaker: Yeah.
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:Amen.
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:I love that.
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:And I think.
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:What you're saying is, is kind of what
I've shared with women is to find it in
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:God, like to know and to love yourself as
much as God loves you and get, it can, but
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:you get to keep working on it and growing.
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:And a lot of times as you grow.
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:And learn many times the spouses will
kind of jump on, which is awesome and
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:it doesn't always happen, but a lot of
times they'll kind of see your life change
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:and want to follow what you're doing.
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:And so
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:Speaker 2: it's freeing to, to,
to release yourself from being
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:your husband's Holy spirit.
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:Like that's not your call.
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:And to be like, well, what can I
control my healing, my journey,
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:myself, I'm going to do this.
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:And.
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:Yes.
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:And that may, that may propel a
change in your, in your relational
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:dynamic or the structure you've
built or the way you've operated.
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:Speaker: Yeah.
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:Yes.
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:And I know I am a person who can think
that I can fix, you know what I mean?
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:I want to go.
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:And so I think I've been
kind of hearing lately too.
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:He's got this, you know, God's got
this and so, you know, just let
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:And that's so hard, but yes, so, so
Amy, what led you to want to write
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:a book about the women in the Bible?
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:Speaker 2: it's pretty layered.
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:So I, um, I'm in my mid forties
and for the last 20 years I've
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leading and teaching and preaching.
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:And, um, so one of the, the layers is, um,
I've often gotten questions on, can you.
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:What does it look like for women to lead,
teach and preach in different spaces?
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:And so having to answer those questions,
I wanted to dig from Genesis to Revelation
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:to see what women are doing, um, where
God has put them, what gifts are inside
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:of them, how has he commissioned them?
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:How has he called them?
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:So that's one part of writing this book,
looking at the different daughters.
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:Um, the other part is I could not get
away from, uh, the story in Luke eight.
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:And I start here with the book
of the only woman called daughter
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:by Jesus is the bleeding woman.
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:And it's just, it's so beautiful
because we know the bleeding one.
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:We know the bleeding woman by that name.
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:We know her by a condition she doesn't,
she's nameless until she goes bravely
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:and, and crosses all kinds of social
barriers and boundaries because
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:she was unclean and her last ditch
effort was to grab, grab the hem.
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:And she thought to herself, if
I could, if I could just get to
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:Jesus, I think I can be healed.
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:And he turns around, searches for her.
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says to her is daughter.
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known by her condition.
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:She is known by her position.
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:And that pulls her out of
being on the margin, unclean.
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:She now is being restored to society.
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:She can be, she's made whole she's she's
clean, but, and she, she feels that she's
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:But I, I propose that maybe the most
powerful thing that happened to her in
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:that moment was being called daughter
and being healed with a name that Um,
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:she hasn't known before of Jesus saying,
I'm going to push you back to the father.
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:You have a, you have a place,
you have a seat at the table.
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:You are welcome at Sunday dinners.
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:You are, you have a room and you have,
you are restored in every kind of
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:And I just couldn't get away
from the call of daughter.
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:And I wanted to explore what does that
mean as our, as our name is a daughter.
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:Speaker: Well, and it doesn't.
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make you feel worthy.
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:Yes.
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:And when you were talking about that,
you know, as I, I think about how I've
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:been healed physically, physically
cured, but I've never really thought
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:about it this way, the bigger picture
is a spiritual healing that is going on
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:and continues to go on, you know, I've
had, that's why I started doing the NLP.
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:I've had so many years of.
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:People pleasing and feeling unworthy.
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:And I don't know if every woman feels
this way, but I sure the heck did.
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:And always questioning.
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:Um, you know, I have a passion in me to,
to do my work and I have a passion in
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:me to be my, to be a mama and a grandma.
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:And it's like, can you do,
can the two merge together
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:and you're, you're doing it.
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:You know, you are doing it
and, and I think they can.
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:And what I'm loving seeing in
these different generations.
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daughter is a physician
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:Speaker: she's just finishing a
residency and she's got a little
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husband has really been the primary.
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:He's working too, but has cared for him.
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:Through this, my son and his wife
is a nurse and he is so, my husband
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:was involved in our children's
lives, but he is so, they are
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:And then the grandmas come running in
when my darling Aubrey's got to go,
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:she's the labor and delivery nurse.
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:And so then we get to be with
our grandchildren and we're both
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:working too, a little bit, but
so we're making it all work.
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:And I kind of came to the, but
I came to the conclusion that
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:Don't you think Amy?
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:Like, yeah, some people, yeah, stay home.
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:And I did stay home for a bit
with my children and just kind
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:But, but I can't judge someone.
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:I don't know what God's
calling is for them.
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:And so I have really kind of come
to peace with that, that we all
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:have different callings from him and
neither none are bigger or smaller.
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:Speaker 2: Right.
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:And I think that's the most beautiful
thing women can give other women
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:is not judgment, but compassion
and like cheerleading celebration
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:to say, I see what you're doing.
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:And even in this season, it may look like
this, but another season, it may change.
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:Great.
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:There is grace for every season.
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:There's grace for the calling inside
of you that may look different.
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:Throughout your life, just like you're
saying, um, but we can be our biggest
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:source of strength as other women, other
daughters saying, how can I help you?
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:I don't do my life without
the help of other women.
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:That's just not possible.
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:We, we continually help
each other do this.
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:I long for more village life because
that's truly the design, right?
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:What you just described this multi
generational multifaceted men
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:and women in marriages, seeing
themselves as side by side partners.
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:It's huge and necessary.
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:Speaker: Absolutely.
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:All these different people in their life.
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:Yes.
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:Yes.
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:And, and yeah, and I think I heard that
you live longer, um, you know, when
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:you spend time with your grandchildren.
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:So that, that makes me happy,
but they just, yeah, it just
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:makes me happy to be with them.
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:So, and I think Amy, when you talk
about being in community with other
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:women, I think I spent so much of my
life not, I don't know what it is.
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:I know that when I first started working
right out of college, I worked at this
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:really unique company that was run by
women and they were, they were more mature
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:than me and I had the greatest experience.
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:But I felt like women, my age and
my twenties were kind of like, I
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:don't know that they were always,
I don't know that they were always
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:there for me, but now I'm really.
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:learning about how good that
feels to be in community.
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:We all need that.
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:I'm, I'm always searching for, I mean, I'm
like going to those exercises, classes,
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:and just trying to be around other
women and not judging and just loving.
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:Yes.
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:Yes.
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:I
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:Speaker 2: mean the, the
greatest commandment is to
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:love God, love neighbor, not.
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:Judge neighbor
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:Speaker: and you don't want to know
what it's kind of hard for me sometimes.
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:I hate
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:Speaker 2: to say it.
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:Oh, yeah
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:Speaker: That's where I
gotta ask for forgiveness You
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:Speaker 2: 100 percent Absolutely.
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:No, this doesn't mean it's easy
I definitely have to jump off
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:the judgment train and and switch
to the compassion train because
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:We're just, we're just so human.
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:We're just so flawed and we're trying
and we need, we need community.
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:And I love that you're in other people's
lives because as an older woman,
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:you can really lead the way and help
mentor these younger women into the
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:celebration and camaraderie of sisterhood.
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:We need that.
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:Speaker: Amen.
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:I so agree.
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:So Amy, let me ask you, you're,
you're wanting this book to not
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:just go out to women in the church.
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:You want to reach beyond.
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:Speaker 2: Yeah.
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there's some message.
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culture, Western culture.
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and what they can and cannot do.
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the things, but also in the church.
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actually be an encouragement to read
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I see these women, their stories doing
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ancient Near East and how God has, has
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great things in his kingdom, that they
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a taste in their mouth about the church
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want us to look biblically and I think
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the garden, we see God made men
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image, side by side, equally blessed.
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blessing of them side by side together.
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that they're wondering about when it
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that would be fresh and draw them to God.
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gonna, you're gonna have that happen
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true and good and pure that, um, you
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can just share it and send it out.
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I'm looking at the time, I can't
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yourself as a woman, whatever spot you're
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whatever network you're in, um, it is not
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do when your father calls you to it.
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to God often about where you are and what
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something to you when you have God.
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career or whatever it is, there
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nothing that can stop you.
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there on your laurels, right?
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and that's what's fun.
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and your name is Donner and you're
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and this and this, but with God, who's
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the way he's right there with them.
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think I'm going to do a podcast about
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kind of talk about what I've learned.
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there, but I can't help it.
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wondering too, why do you think it is?
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are stories about amazing women.
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that I've never really delved into that.
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um, the writers of Of the different parts
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in a specific context, the ancient near
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where it was a patriarchal society.
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to work was actually, it was supposed
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house was a place of refuge caretaking.
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things, but that often went awry
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it's the blueprint to only see men.
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out the gems, dig through the gems
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God, I mean, that's in my introduction.
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many dudes in the Bible?
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was a context, there was a, um,
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the patriarchs play that.
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are everywhere doing all kinds of things.
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invite women to, to, to see in my book.
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:Speaker: Oh, I can't
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:Speaker: I can't wait to read it, Amy.
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:Thank you so much.
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:And, and listeners grab it, go
to my show notes and get it.
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:Or Amy, where else can they find you?
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:I'll have all the connections in
the show notes, but what's the
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:Speaker 2: Yeah, I think
Instagram is really fun.
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:So I'm at Amy Seifert at, on Instagram.
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:Also, um, amyseifert.
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:com has all my books.
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:You can order there and you can get
my book wherever books are sold.
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:Uh, yeah, that's where you can find me.
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:Speaker: Awesome.
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:Thanks for having me.
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:Speaker 2: All right.
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